(on the desicion to make 1989 pop) All of this started happening organically, & I found myself gravitating toward pop sensibilities, pop hooks, pop production styles. When I knew the album had hit its stride, I went to Scott Borchetta & said, “I have to be honest with you: I did not make a country album. I did not make any semblance of a country album.” & of course he went into a state of semi-panic & went through all the stages of grief, the pleading, the denial…